tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9004526454593568266.post6828119156541127819..comments2024-03-24T04:34:23.057-07:00Comments on Multitude Project: What are the #occupy camps?TiberiusBhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00912528108978262916noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9004526454593568266.post-28417624729162879342011-10-24T22:21:02.885-07:002011-10-24T22:21:02.885-07:00Lord AGNUcius this is a great question!
Until no...Lord AGNUcius this is a great question! <br /><br />Until now, the occupy camp in Montreal, viewed from within, is a gift economy. From the outside it can mistakenly be seen as an entity surviving on welfare. It is true that all the resources within the camp come from outside the camp as donations. The camps is NOT self-sustainable. But it is not a parasitic entity for the city neither. There is an economic exchange between the camp and a portion of the population in the city: the camp offers a potential for change in exchange for food, clothing, etc. And there is more, most camp members also participate in the city's economy, and donate not only their time to the occupation camp, but also their money and materials. <br /><br />I saw other elements in the Wall Street camp: they offer services to the population passing by, prints on T-shirts, in exchange for donations, which moves the camp's economy a step closer to self-sustainability. <br /><br />But I agree that the camp needs to grow its economy, internally to move beyond the gift economy, and seen from outside, to be able to produce value that can be exchanged with other camps, and even with the rest of the local society. The idea is to see the camps outgrowing their cities. This is the metamorphosis process we are expecting. This is in fact the process of change! <br /><br />Camps need to focus internally, NOT to fight the system. They need to focus on their sustainability, on their growth, feeding themselves at the beginning from their present-old local economy, while developing their own mechanisms for self-reliance. <br /><br />Multitude Project is taking an active role in shaping the economy of occupation camps. We'll use our experience with SENSORICA, a pilot project for the new economy.TiberiusBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00912528108978262916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9004526454593568266.post-7358608733791186822011-10-24T20:46:30.138-07:002011-10-24T20:46:30.138-07:00Who paid for the food and electricity?
It is beau...Who paid for the food and electricity?<br /><br />It is beautiful and encouraging, but is it really sustainable?<br /><br />How many years can they live like this?<br /><br />Where will the food come from? If I cannot do some of that work on shared property, then I cannot secure my basic needs.<br /><br />How can we extend this drive into buying some land and beginning to co-own the agriculture we must have before I can be sure my wife and children would not die.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00186083086452674635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9004526454593568266.post-91030278093655821632011-10-18T20:37:06.107-07:002011-10-18T20:37:06.107-07:00It is also fascinating how wiki structures and occ...It is also fascinating how wiki structures and occupy structures relate - I suppose that is the self-organizing at work :-)Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14687913612538656873noreply@blogger.com